{pp}Muller Conrad (Billy) Rautenbach, one of the State witnesses in the legal proceedings against Jackie Selebi, the ex-National Commissioner of the South African Police Services and ex-Interpol President, today testified regarding his dealings with Glenn Agliotti which started approximately 6 years ago. In his testimony Rautenbach conveyed the facts about his dealings with Agliotti, which took place at a time when there were no criminal charges against Agliotti.